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About 6 months ago my family moved into an 1870's farm house, we had bought it pretty cheap because the elderly couple wern't able to live on there own so we just took over the rest of there mortgage. Anyways the first night Roman, our 3 year old son, got scared cause he thought that someone was watching him, we thought maybe it was all the new shadows that his nightlight was making.
5 Months ago my wife and I were getting ready for bed when we hear Roman scream and he comes flying in saying that there is a man in his room. I go check it out and there is nothing there, checked the windows and everything and the alarm was still active and didn't go off. He said that he woke up and he was standing at the end of his bed. We explained that saying stuff like that is very serious and that he should lie to us, but he kinda got mad cause we didn't belive him. So I go and sleep in his room with him and I didn't see any creepy shadows or anything.
The next day we all go to town for the day but when we got home the bathroom sink was on and the entire bathroom was steamed up. None of us had turned it on at all that morning.
2 Months ago we were all down stairs watching T.V and all of a sudden our dog starts growing and walks towards the stairs, I follow him and he goes up there and goes to Romans door and starts barking and growling. Roman ended up sleeping in our bed that night...Then early the next morning the dog starts pawing at our door wanting out, I get up to let him out and as soon as I open the door I he lunges forward snarling and barking and I get blasted with freezing air, he runs to Romans door and starts stratching at it and barking.
About a month ago I get home from work and Ashley and Roman are sitting on the front porch, She looks extremely scared, she had been cleaning and put a glass bowl on the counter and went into the other room and then she hears it break so she went back in the kitchen and it was smashed on the floor, She went to find Roman to make sure he was ok cause obvously he had just broken it, when she found him he was asleep on the couch, she carries him up to his bed and Kitty follows them up but before she got out of his room Kitty jumps up on the bed and starts growling (she thought he was growling at Roman) but Roman wakes up and screams that the man is there! Ashley spins around and doesn't see anyone but Roman and Kitty do so she takes them outside but they had to go thru the kitchen again and all the glass had been scattered around...I found all of this to hard to belive but I listened anyways. Had no way of explaining any of the things I've seen but this couldn't happen.
Last Friday (January 15th) we all get home from the park and Roman took one look at the house and started freaking out that the man is in there and I look up and his bedroom curtains were actually moving back and forth like someone had been looking thru so I go get Kitty from the truck and we go in and he runs straight to Romans room and I grab my gun...go in there and no one is there and Kitty runs around sniffing.
Another thing I noticed is that sometimes Kitty will be playing then suddenly stop and go find Roman and just follow him and if Romans not doing anything he will just sit next to him. I know that dogs have better smelling and hearing then us but does he know somthing that we dont? And why is Roman the only one that sees him? The only thing that has happend to me is the cold blast of air, havnt seen or heard anything. Is his room haunted? should I check into what happend to the elderly couple that lived there before us?

I have really no Idea how the hell to handle any of this, I still think there has to be a logical answer to this or somthing but what should I do about this if I cant explain it, We havn't been home since friday cause now Ashley and Roman refuse to go back in there....Who do I call? A minister or somthing?


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Pets can have the ability to see and/or sense spirits better than we can, which is why they seem to react more to the entity.

You could see if there's a local medium in your area that would be able to sense what the entity wants and/or why they're there.

You could also do what's known as a 'smudging' to try to get rid of it. They're a bit of a pain though, they have a lot of steps involved, plus you have to know what you're dealing with anyway for maximum effectiveness: there's smudgings for regular spirits (which I don't really recommend if they don't seem to want to do any harm), evil entities and demonics.

However, you can do a partial one, which is what I did to get rid of several entities that used to be around here...there used to be three, and with the much diminished activity now, I'd say it's down to one. Part of several of the steps involves getting some sage and burning it, then walk around the house as it's smell wafts around. Go inside each and every single room and closet to cover all areas this entity could be in. Walk around rooms in a clockwise direction (I don't know why, it's just part of the ritual) and try to imagine a bright light filling each and every room as you walk about (entities don't like lights in general). Also say 'you must leave, you must get out' several times as you go from one end of the house to the other. I know you might feel stupid while doing this if you can't see anything but that's one of the things that you have to do; obviously going into rooms with a gun, making sure the alarm is still set/everything's locked, etc. isn't going to get rid of it, they have to KNOW you don't want them in there.

Then once you're done with the ritual, plant what's left of the smoldering sage at the steps of your front door, which is your way of saying 'don't come back'.

Just doing those things alone might get rid of it; like I said, there's other steps involved, I just don't remember them all. And they helped a lot with me and my problems, just haven't done it again since to get rid of the last entity (ies?) since I don't live by myself right now and have to wait until everyone else is gone since they don't need to know what I'm doing or about my 'other life' :P

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I would say to also check into the history of the location, not only the house but the land as well, the people who have lived there before you. Go to a library and see if you can find some history on your place.
If you try the sage thing, and it doesn't work, you can call in a priest, call in paranormal investigators, they can check things out for you and tell you if something is in the house. Obviously something is scaring Roman since the beginning, the dog has seen something as well and is growling at this " unknown " thing. Now your wife is scared. I say do as much research as you possibly can, get as much information as possible. I don't know much about the sage ritual thing, but if it works, what can it hurt?
Please keep us informed on what you find out and what steps you take.

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The only drawback in doing a smudging in this case is that I think (although I could be wrong) that the guy just doesn't want you there and that's where it would be good to get a medium in there to talk to him and help him deal with that he needs to move on. Because I'd think that's why he broke the bowl to try to discourage everyone. But with the kids and pets being abused (basically) you might not want to wait to try to find a medium in case you just flat-out want him out as soon as possible.

Thumper, you're not familiar with smudgings?


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The only one i know pertains the sage, broom, but differently than u said in above post... u have to go thru every room, inch to inch .. window / window sills as well. When dealing with someone who doesn't know what to do, have to be in full explanation. Reason I said I don't know much about it is because I've never tried it lol. So I don't know how well it works.
But either way, we don't want anything to go further with this " thing ".

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This story strikes a bit of a personal note. First let me say please don't doubt your child. Children are often more perceptive than adults in these areas. I have seen instances where parents have decided the child had a mental defect and even institutionalized them. Needless to say, this ruins the relationship between parent and child.

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The most important part would be the words. You must tell the spirit that you want it to leave and never to come back. Some spirits, if uninvited, will just leave when told. The sage is symbolic in my opinion; however, Wicca claims that it has a magical property of protection. Covering the whole house is simply showing the area in which you do not want the spirit. If you try this, don’t forget the attic, basement, and garages. The problem is when a spirit has been bound to the location by a previous event such as a death or ritual.

As far as getting help, my only advice is to not go the Catholic church. I’m sorry if I offend anyone here that is Catholic, but I think Catholics often do more harm than good with their rituals. The way many work, they end up calling in more spirits. I am not saying all are bad, just from what I’ve seen, it’s better not to take the chance. Honestly, with Christians, I find the smaller the denomination is, the more helpful they are.

Mediums can help too, but with them, you have to be careful of scammers. In general, look for someone that is willing to help out of kindness. Avoid people who ask for money.

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Agreed on the money up front deal. There are those that say paranormal investigators should never get any money for what they do, but I don't feel a donation is totally wrong; after all, even if you happen to investigate a residence in town, it's still costing money for gas, which can go pretty high at times.

And I wouldn't just say the Catholic church getting involved might not help, ANY priest or any kind of clergy person that doesn't know about the paranormal isn't going to know how to deal with these kinds of things anyway. But yeah, I agree on that one too.


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Hello Is This Real. I find your experience absolutely fascinating. The appearance of an apparition, ESPECIALLY THE APPEARANCE OF AN APPARITION TO A YOUNG CHILD, moving curtains, running faucets that no one has turned on, blasts of freezing cold air, smashed dishes, alarmed animals, an old farmhouse, ESPECIALLY AN OLD FARMHOUSE THAT WAS LET GO CHEAPLY?????. You have described CLASSIC Poltergeist activity. And, from your description, I'd say that you've got a fairly strong one on your hands. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more than one. It's just that only one has appeared thus far. I'm going to give you a three-part prescription that you need to follow immediately. After that, I'll detail what I think is going on with your home and family.

1. The immediate threat and danger is to your children, especially Roman. It is imperative that you get your children, especially Roman, out of that house immediately and keep them out until this matter is resolved. Maybe you've got nearby relatives, or good friends with whom they can stay momentarily.

2. I don't think this is a matter that you're going to be able to resolve by yourself. You're going to need the help of an authority. I would highly recommend a Roman Catholic Priest: preferably, one who has experience with this sort of thing. You might have to look hard for one. Maybe your local Parish can make a recommendation, or maybe you can find one on the internet.

3. I would also recommend that you and the rest of your family find alternative temporary lodging until this matter is resolved.

Now, to give you more detail:

Haunting falls into two different categories. Sometimes, "people," are haunted: their ghosts, or spirits, follow them around, or else they take them around with them. And, sometimes, "places," are haunted: the ghosts, or spirits, stay in one locale. From what you've described, I don't believe that you or any of your family members are haunted. Rather, I believe that your old farmhouse is haunted. Apparently, all of what you described didn't start happening until you moved into the old farmhouse. Additionally, it is very, very common for people living in haunted houses to let them go very cheaply. The elderly people who sold the house to you might have told you that they weren't able to live there on their own anymore. But, the fact of the matter might very well be that they just wanted to get the Hell out of there because they, too, were experiencing the same things you are experiencing. There are books full of stories about how people were able to buy houses so cheaply, only to find out later, after they moved in, that the houses were haunted. Perhaps the elderly couple wanted out of that haunted house so badly that they were willing to just allow you to take over their mortgage. If they had lived there for any length of time, then why would they not want to sell it at a profit? Surely, they would need retirement income! I don't know the specifics. But, I do know that this sort of exchange is characteristic of haunted property. If possible, you should try to stay in touch with them because their information may very well be helpful to you in the near future.

I dislike using the word, "energy," in reference to the occult. Unfortunately, I am unable to come up with a better term. So, I'll use it and explain what I mean by it here. Ghosts, or Spirits in general need, "energy," in order to exist. They do not inherently have this energy. Therefore, they need to feed on the energy of living people. Now, here is what I mean by the term, "energy." In order for anything to, "exist," its, "existence," must be acknowledged by at least one person other than itself. As such, in order for a Ghost, or Spirit, to exist, its existence must be acknowledged. Any magician (of the parlor tricks variety) will tell you that young children are their worst audiences. For example, through a feat of prestidigitation, a magician might put a coin in his hand and seemingly magically make it disappear before a young child. After which, the young child stands there expressionless, seemingly singularly unimpressed. The reason is because, typically, a young child's consciousness is not sufficiently developed enough to know that a disappearing coin is not a normal, everyday occurrence. Now, most adult human beings do not believe in Ghosts. The general consensus among adults is that Ghosts, or Spirits do not exist. Their consciousness is sufficiently developed enough that they look for more logical---rational---scientific---explanations for seemingly paranormal occurrences. As such, Ghosts, or Spirits have a difficult time acquiring, "acknowledgment," from most adults because most adults are closed minded to their existence. Young children, on the other hand are different. Just as a young child's consciousness is not sufficiently developed enough to know that a disappearing coin is not a normal, everyday occurrence, it is also not sufficiently developed enough to know that the appearance of an apparition, a Ghost, or a Spirit is not a normal, everyday occurrence. Experienced occultists will tell you that young children are particularly perceptive to the presence of Ghosts, or Spirits. And, I believe these are the reasons why.

Ghosts, or Spirits commonly, "attach themselves," or, "prey," on young children because they are more likely able to acquire, "energy," or, "acknowledgment of their existence," from them. This is the reason why you've got to get your children, especially Roman, out of that house and keep them out until this matter is resolved. There is already an, "Occult Rapport," that has developed between the Poltergeist(s) and Roman. You've got to break this, "Occult Rapport," altogether! Otherwise, the Poltergeist(s) will continue, "vampire-izing," Roman's energy. By this, I mean that the more Roman's imagination dwells on this Ghost, or Spirit, the more, "Form," and "Detail," he will give it and the stronger it will become. By the way, this, "flow of energy," is only one way: from Roman to the Ghost, or Spirit. The more the Ghost, or Spirit, "sucks," Roman's energy from him, so to speak, the literally, physically weaker Roman will become. I don't wish to worry you, Is This Real. But, there are well documented cases of this sort of thing in which children have become increasingly physically weaker, seemingly unexplainably ill, very ill, and have even died. I think it best that you take no chances! Get them out of there! Additionally, the stronger the Poltergeist(s) becomes through Roman's, "energy," the harder it will be to get rid of it.

As I mentioned, most adults are closed minded to the existence of Ghosts, or Spirits. However, many adults are open minded to their existence. What tends to happen in cases like yours is that the Ghost, or Spirit starts working on the young children first. As the youngest ones become increasingly more affected, the older children and the adults (parents) start believing the child and then begin opening themselves up to the idea of the existence of Ghosts, or Spirits as well. At that point, the Poltergeist(s) has an entire family to feed off of and really begins growing in strength. This is why I recommended that all of you find alternative temporary lodging until this matter is resolved. At this point, your entire family is, "responding," to this thing. Inadvertently, all of you are empowering it increasingly more, day by day. If there is no one present in the house to, "acknowledge its existence," then the Poltergeist(s) cannot exist. Strange, but true.

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As far as getting help, my only advice is to not go the Catholic church. I’m sorry if I offend anyone here that is Catholic, but I think Catholics often do more harm than good with their rituals. The way many work, they end up calling in more spirits. I am not saying all are bad, just from what I’ve seen, it’s better not to take the chance. Honestly, with Christians, I find the smaller the denomination is, the more helpful they are.


MaskedFox: I respect your opinion and would be very much interested in discussing your opposition to Roman Catholicism in this matter further. I am genuinely interested in your point of view. However, I'm recommending a Roman Catholic Priest to Is This Real to tend to this matter for the following reasons:

Believe it or not, the Christian Holy Bible is, "chock full," of occult symbolism. In fact, I could easily write a 300-page book on occult symbolism in the Bible. However, to Parishioners, the Church avoids explaining these symbols altogether and simply requires Catholics to accept them as, "Mysteries of Faith." But, it is precisely the understanding and implementation of this occult symbolism that will be required to remove the Poltergeist(s) from your house, Is This Real. To my knowledge, the Roman Catholic Church is the only Christian entity that understands this occult symbolism because it was the very first Christian church and it is the entity that literally composed the Holy Bible to begin with. "Diagnosis is 50% of the cure," as the adage goes. My thinking is that a Roman Catholic Priest would be the most qualified to identify whatever this, "thing," is that is haunting Is This Real's house. Additionally, the Roman Catholic Priesthood is the only Christian entity formally schooled in the rite, or Sacrament of Exorcism. In my opinion, the Roman Catholic Church comes to situations, or cases like this one carrying with it a great deal of credibility. This is why I am recommending a Roman Catholic Priest to take care of this matter: in effect, to banish the Ghost(s), or Spirit(s) from Is This Real's house. My experience is that the Protestant branches of Christianity and their derivative sects take a much more literal view of the Bible and don't seem to understand or acknowledge it's occult content. As such, I think that a non-Catholic Christian representative would be less effective. Although, I may be mistaken.

By the way, a Roman Catholic Priest will not be allowed to perform a formal Exorcism in your house, Is This Real, without the Vatican's approval. If I'm not mistaken, an investigation must be performed and special permission must be given by the Vatican. But, a Roman Catholic Priest should still be able to get the job done for you without a formal Exorcism. Anyway, my advice is to contact a Priest and start getting this thing over with as soon as possible. Don't delay!

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I would say to also check into the history of the location, not only the house but the land as well, the people who have lived there before you. Go to a library and see if you can find some history on your place.


I think Thumper offers good advice here. I would also recommend talking to the elderly couple who sold you the house to see what they've experienced there. This information would be particularly useful in helping whomever is going to be in charge of banishing this, "thing," to identify exactly, "what," he is dealing with. However, my advice to you, Is This Real and your family, is to try to stop dwelling on the matter. Remember. The more you concern yourselves with this, "thing," the more, "energy," you give it, the more, "real," you make it, and the more powerful it becomes. I think the best thing to do is try to put it out of your mind altogether. Let the, "Exorcist," deal with the details.

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You could also do what's known as a 'smudging' to try to get rid of it.


Not to offend you, tviscante, but I think a, "smudging," would be far too weak a measure for a Spiritual Entity of the power Is This Real described. Whatever this, "thing," is, it has the power to manifest itself in human form, move curtains, shatter dishes, turn faucet handles, etc... I think it has very unusual strength. While I think smudging would be a wonderful preventative measure after the, "thing," has been banished, I'm not convinced it would be a strong enough cure initially.

Lastly, Is This Real, after the Poltergeist(s) has been banished, I recommend that you and your family go into your house, scrub it down and sanitize it from basement to rooftop. If you can repaint the entire place, that would be great. Typically, Ghosts, or Spirits of this nature cannot stand to be around Holy objects. They usually continue hanging around on the Earth plane because they're afraid of facing the Divine for whatever reason to begin with. So, if you can place Holy objects in every room, that would be great. You might consider hanging crucifixes in every room of your house. One of the gifts of the Magi to the Messiah was frankincense. You might consider burning frankincense in your home. Anything that is considered Holy will help.

At any rate, you've really got to get rid of this thing as soon as possible. Presently, it is only appearing, moving things and shattering dishes. But, as these things gain strength, they've been known to cause all kinds of damage---even starting fires. This, "thing," was already strong before you moved into the house. I wouldn't be surprised if the elderly couple who sold you the house, "energized," it to its current level of strength through their own, "acknowledgment of its existence." The longer you delay, the more you strengthen it.

Be careful and good luck!


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Frater Manifesto wrote:
MaskedFox: I respect your opinion and would be very much interested in discussing your opposition to Roman Catholicism in this matter further.


He might not be against it per se, it's just that a lot of the times clergy people, in general, have no belief in the paranormal and look at things in black and white: what you're supposed to do until you die and what happens afterwards, that's it. There is no in between, there are no ghosts. Because if you're as knowledgable for something like this then you know that demons exist, something that me and another paranormal friend had to find out the hard way when we started out ignorant as paranormal investigators. When he tried enlisting the help of local church people once he ran into paranormal trouble, one of them told him on the phone that demons didn't exist and that he had to hang up since he had to go pick up his kids. My friend said 'the fool!' for not believing in that, but as I told him, if someone had told me just a year earlier that demons existed I would have tried as hard as possible not to laugh in his face. If they also said I would be investigating and believing in this kind of thing a year later, I would've been intrigued, but probably still not believed it. So it's a common school of thought, unfortunately, and like you said, it might be difficult to find one as it is, and that's one of the reasons.


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MaskedFox: I respect your opinion and would be very much interested in discussing your opposition to Roman Catholicism in this matter further.


Perhaps I have simply had poor experiences with the Catholic Church. Though I have read the Bible and recognize the occult symbolism to which you are referring, I have not extensively studied their practices.

My experience with the Catholic Church is comprised mainly of two catholic priests with whom I had the opportunity to discuss spirits. The first man was of the opinion that spirits do not truly exist. However, he was more than willing to go to a house and “sprinkle some water, read a couple verses” in the hope of receiving a donation.

The second man completely believed that demons (all spirits were demons to him) exist. He also told me that the majority of people who are experiencing difficulty with demons have done something deserving of punishment in their lives. These people would essentially be required to buy themselves back into good favor with God before an exorcism could be performed.

In both cases, the desire for money seemed foremost and was discouraging. I’m sure many good priests are available, but I try to avoid them if I need help with something.

Additionally, about ten years ago, I corresponded with a man who had received a Catholic exorcism at his house. According to his account, the priest called upon something like fifty names, presumably the names of saints, to assist in removing the demon. The man said the priest claimed everything was alright, but two days later, activity returned and had increased from voices and footsteps to physical manifestations against residents such as scratches and even pushing someone down the stairs. The man and his wife were forced to move out of the house.

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