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DEATH DEALER II wrote:
I think they are. I have been using them for sometime for various reasons, good, bad, or indifferent and plan to continue using them in the future.


can you share us what kind of spells have you used? just curious to know.


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A point I made earlier regarding "spells". I see "spells" totally different than "magic". To me, "spells" do not require the training, general knowledge of "black/white magic", what to use when or what you are wanting achieve through the help of entities, angels, demons, the dead, etc. I see "spells" as less complicated, requiring less mental training, will power and can be in any book in any bookstore, while books on "magic" are rare, hard to come by, and very expensive. Plus a knowledge of Greek, Latin, Hebrew are almost a necessity.

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Spells I have used? That covers a wide ranged from love, to "get even", to guidance in tasks I want to embark on, general everyday things, like is it going to rain when I plan to play tennis? A lot of things to do with planting certain herbs/garden work, best time by moon phase, to choose who to ask out for a date, successful or not. Define "success" anyway you want to. I imagine that any bookstore woth its salt, would have various types of books on spells but I would see if youur local library has some you find interesting/helpful before you purchase any.

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DEATH DEALER II wrote:
A point I made earlier regarding "spells". I see "spells" totally different than "magic". To me, "spells" do not require the training, general knowledge of "black/white magic", what to use when or what you are wanting achieve through the help of entities, angels, demons, the dead, etc. I see "spells" as less complicated, requiring less mental training, will power and can be in any book in any bookstore, while books on "magic" are rare, hard to come by, and very expensive. Plus a knowledge of Greek, Latin, Hebrew are almost a necessity.


Hello DEATH DEALER. I agree with you in some respects and disagree in others. Rather than seeing spell casting and formal magical ritual as totally different, I see them as two different approaches to the same thing: "effecting change," which is one of the most common definitions of magic.

When I first got into magic, I started with simple spell casting and experienced a great deal of success at it. The more enthusiastic I got over it, the more interested I became in it and the more elaborate my magical operations became, the more in-depth I began studying it: all of those rare and expensive texts to which you made reference. Looking back over many years of study and practice, I'm inclined to think that my magic was much more effective when I was younger, ignorant about how magic works and highly enthusiastic about it than it is now that I am older, wiser about how magic works and, unfortunately, less enthusiastic about it. Another common definition of magic is, "Expanding Consciousness." Many magicians refer to this as, "The Great Work." This entails a great deal of, "Self-Work:" getting inside one's head, figuring out how one's mind operates and coming to understand just how strongly the sub/unconscious mind controls human beings and dictates their behavior. It also entails coming to understand how the sub/unconscious mind uses symbols---even animated symbols---to convey what is going on inside itself. Those symbols include, "Angels," "Demons," "Spirits," "Ghosts of the Dead," "Gods," "God-forms," etc: in fact, most of the, "paradigms," we utilize and, "entities," we evoke and invoke to assist us in our magical operations. In the formal study of magic, we come to realize the immense power of the human mind and attempt to harness it. There are both benefits and detriments to this, however. The great benefit of formal magic study is that, by learning how the human mind operates, we come nearer and nearer to what Carl Jung called, "Wholeness," and, "Individuation:" a desired state of mind. The detriment, however, is that the more we come to understand, "Unseen Entities," as internal mental constructs---symbols for the sub/unconscious mind's consistency---the more we lose, "faith," in them as external, autonomous beings. I think that this, "loss of faith," and thus enthusiasm, renders our magic ineffectual.

And, I think this is the main difference between spell casting and formal magic. The magician, "effects change," through, "mastery," of himself, his environment and its inhabitants, which develops over many years of toiling away at, "The Great Work." Spell casting, on the other hand, simply requires an individual's, "faith," that the spell will work. In hindsight, regarding the effectiveness of one's magic, I would choose ignorance, faith and enthusiasm over knowledge, reason and intellectualization in employing magic for desired ends any day of the week: in effect, spell casting over formal magical ritual.

By the way, to anyone interested in studying and employing magic in one's life, I have nothing, whatsoever, to gain by recommending this particular book. Also, as it has become highly commercial, I hate to seem trite, trivial and superficial. However, I find Rhonda Byrne's book, The Secret, to contain all of the very fundamentals and principles of magic. It's relatively cheap. It can be found in most any department store. It's an easy read. And, it condenses centuries and thousands of pages of intellectual treatises on magic into less than 200 easy to understand pages. The book is quite amazing in its simplicity. I highly recommend it. I think it is really the only book on magic one really needs. I also highly recommend reading it while one still has faith in whatever one identifies as, "God." "Self-mastery," through the formal study of magic has a way of rendering one, "Godless," a degenerative process that would take me volumes to explain. I think that, "Faith," is essential to effective magic. So, hold onto it!


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Death Spells are the most effective when the person knows a spell has sent against them. Partially psychological knowing the kind of spell pllaced on them and the spell itself if done correctly. If not, it can rebound against the sender and it should not be tried for the novice. :!:

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Frater, when you do your spell casting, what kind of thing goes on and how do you know if it worked properly? I'm not sure what you mean by spell-casting. It´s nothing like Harry Potter I know, but could you give us an example of a spell you would use and the effects it should cause?

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Hi Again, Finding Truth. Before I answer your questions, please do me a favor. Take the single digits of the month and day of your birth and add them to the current year. For example, I was born January, (Friday) the 13th: 1 (the month) + 1+3 (the day) + 2 + 0 + 0 + 9 = 16. I'm asking you to do the same with your own birthday and let me know if the sum is a number between 10 and 18. If you don't mind, please tell me your birthday. Your answer will determine how I answer your questions. Weird, huh?


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"Spells are helpful, as strong as the mind is. Weak minded or weak willed people will never be successful in casting spells, regarless what they do. I cast spells all the time and nearly 100% work, in that they do wwhat I set out for them to do so. The darked the spell the mre menta preperation is needed and if nothing happens, was it the spell or the person casting it? :idea:

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